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We’ve all experienced it or heard about it happening: Someone has a conversation about wanting a red jacket, and then suddenly, it seems like they’re seeing ads for red jackets all over the place.

Makers of microphone-equipped electronics sometimes admit to selling voice data to third parties (advertisers). But that’s usually voice data accumulated after a user has prompted their device to start listening to them and after they’ve opted into (preferably not by default) this sort of data collection.

But a marketing company called CMG Local Solutions sparked panic recently by alluding that it has access to people’s private conversations by tapping into data gathered by the microphones on their phones, TVs, and other personal electronics, as first reported by 404 Media on Thursday. The marketing firm had said it uses these personal conversations for ad targeting.

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